Route 23 is the one affected
Computer generated image of New Routemaster, copyright belongs to TFL.
I recently found a Freedom of Information request referring to the London
Bus routes which the New Routemaster failed their route test on. Eddie Cole
submitted a request via the 'What Do They Know' website where you can see users
submitting information requests to government bodies for information.
The 'What Do They Know' website user sent a Freedom of Information request
to Transport for London on 11th September 2014.
Dear Transport for
London,
I understand that you have recently released, via an FOI request, a list of routes that were tested for operation by the New Routemaster but which were considered unsuitable without varying degrees of infrastructure work.
I understand these routes to be 7, 14, 19, 22, 23, 74, 94, 139,168, 414 and C2. Firstly, can you please confirm that this list is correct.
Secondly, please would you set out details of:
i) what the required infrastructure work would be for each of these
routes and
ii) any estimate you have made of the cost of these works.
Yours faithfully,
Eddie Cole
I understand that you have recently released, via an FOI request, a list of routes that were tested for operation by the New Routemaster but which were considered unsuitable without varying degrees of infrastructure work.
I understand these routes to be 7, 14, 19, 22, 23, 74, 94, 139,168, 414 and C2. Firstly, can you please confirm that this list is correct.
Secondly, please would you set out details of:
i) what the required infrastructure work would be for each of these
routes and
ii) any estimate you have made of the cost of these works.
Yours faithfully,
Eddie Cole
Below is the reply from Transport for London to Eddie Cole's FOI request
about the failed route test for the New Routemaster.
Dear
Mr Cole
TfL Ref: 0953-1415
Thank you for your email received by us on 11 September 2014 asking for information about New Bus for London route testing, details of infrastructure works and the costs involved.
Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. I can confirm we hold some of the information you require.
TfL Ref: 0953-1415
Thank you for your email received by us on 11 September 2014 asking for information about New Bus for London route testing, details of infrastructure works and the costs involved.
Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy. I can confirm we hold some of the information you require.
I understand that you have recently released, via an FOI request, a list of routes that were tested for operation by the New Routemaster but which were considered unsuitable without varying degrees of infrastructure work.
I understand these routes to be 7, 14, 19, 22, 23, 74, 94, 139, 168, 414 and C2. Firstly, can you please confirm that this list is correct.
I can confirm that details of the bus routes which were tested for possible New Routemaster conversion but were deemed unsuitable without undertaking varying degrees of infrastructure work have been disclosed in response to a previous Freedom of Information request.
Secondly, please would you set out details of:
i) what the required infrastructure work would be for each of these routes and
ii) any estimate you have made of the cost of these works.
The
following table lists these routes and the key reasons why New Routemasters are
not suitable without some level of infrastructure change:
Route
|
Key Issue(s)
|
7
|
Multiple residents parking bays on
section of route between Westbourne Terrace and North Pole would require
shortening or removing.
|
14 &414
|
Left turn into Sydney Place is tight
between corner and pedestrian centre island.
|
19
|
Left turn into Parkgate Road is tight
between signal post and curb without sweeping into area between stop and
advance stop line.
|
22
|
Putney Common Stand would need widening
onto Common Land
|
23
|
Multiple residents parking bays on
section of route between Westbourne Terrace and Ladbroke Grove would require
shortening or removing
|
74
|
Use of Putney Garage as bus stand would
not be suitable throughout the day
|
94
|
Junctions around Turnham Green are tight
|
139
|
Stand manoeuvre at West Hampstead is
tight and stand length may be an issue.
|
168
|
Stand length at Hampstead Heath may be an
issue
|
C2
|
Stand manoeuvre at Parliament Hill is
tight without over-sweeping pavement and/or grounding on traffic calming
|
In
terms of the estimated costs involved for the required infrastructure changes,
unfortunately we do not hold this information. Although potential mitigations
have been identified in most cases, detailed cost evaluations
have not been produced regarding the aforementioned issues. In the majority of cases, alternative routes have been identified and consequently the above routes discounted for conversion to a New
Routemaster vehicle.
If this is not the information you are looking for, or if you are unable to access it for some reason, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.
Yours sincerely
Jasmine Howard
FOI Case Officer
FOI Case Management Team
General Counsel
Transport for London
have not been produced regarding the aforementioned issues. In the majority of cases, alternative routes have been identified and consequently the above routes discounted for conversion to a New
Routemaster vehicle.
If this is not the information you are looking for, or if you are unable to access it for some reason, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Please see the attached information sheet for details of your right to appeal as well as information on copyright and what to do if you would like to re-use any of the information we have disclosed.
Yours sincerely
Jasmine Howard
FOI Case Officer
FOI Case Management Team
General Counsel
Transport for London
For an
11.3 metre long bus, it shows there are still problems manoeuvring the narrow
streets of London. The bendy bus
however, which has a length of 18 metres can manoeuvre anywhere where a 12
metre bus is able to operate. This is why there were only 12 London Bus routes
served by Mercedes-Benz Citaro Artics that were able to operate. The routes
that used to be served by the articulated buses were 12, 18, 25, 29, 38, 73,
149, 207, 436, 453, 507 & 521; so route 38 is the former bendy bus route
that is able to take New Routemasters which have been in service since late
February 2012. Very shortly, former bendy bus route 453 is due to be converted
to New Routemasters but it keeps being postponed due to target dates being
missed.
The
New Routemaster, which was specifically designed for London is unable to
traverse most routes due to the overall length of the buses which have extra
features like a rear door/open platform and rear staircase. Hopefully, if the
two-door design of the New Routemaster is unveiled, it would be able to
manoeuvre around the tighter sections of the route because it would do away
with the rear door and staircase making it shorter.
The
failed route test list which I quoted from the FOI request from TFL shows that
routes 7, 14, 19, 22, 23 and 94 were the former AEC Routemaster routes that got
withdrawn from main service from early to mid 2000’s, but the route's that
failed the route conversion would possibly not be able to see the replacement
New Routemaster on the route. It would however cost TFL money to modify the
infrastructure of the route to operate an 11.3 metre bus in order to enable open
boarding and/or 2nd crew/open platform service.
Full scale mock up of New Routemaster blinded for route 23
By Magnus D from London, United Kingdom (original file), cropped by User:Ultra7 [CC-BY-2.0], via Wikimedia Commons
Back
in 2010, TFL unveiled the design of the New Routemaster (was New Bus for
London) in a computer generated design and later a full scale mock up. Both had
blinds for Route 23 but now it will not see the light of day operating on route
23 because of an issue with parking bays between Westbourne Terrace and
Ladbroke Grove. There are still many routes though which TFL can nominate to
Tower Transit to operate the route with New Routemasters. But route 23 is operated by using the Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Hybrid buses
If you
think that the New Routemaster is unable to convert some of the routes due to
road infrastructure problems or anything else then please let me know your
thoughts by adding a comment.
Also you may be interested to see the differences with the newer bus types which the manufactures unveiled.
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